Do you feel like this is good?

Yeah. Having the hole inside is like you're digging the hole and hiding something in it. It's like a treasure hole.

What, like here?

Yeah.

I think I was just…I don't know, I like things that aren't straightforward and maybe a bit bumpy? I don't know.

I think it's not a trap. You have these shiny buttons in there and it feels like you hide the treasures inside.

Yeah, I guess so.

Has the workshop changed the way you were thinking about yourself?

To be more open and less afraid.