Are those stripes representing something?

I don't know, maybe it's like…

Is it just an aesthetical thing, or would you like to include everything in your winning streak?

Maybe! Yeah, that's a good interpretation, I didn't think of that. I just think it's good looking to have that one. You're a good therapist.

Are you satisfied with your outcome? Have you presented everything you wanted?

Maybe not everything. It's like you need to choose. Like in your life, you need to choose. You cannot put everything inside. It's quite impressive in your sandbox, you just chose a few things. I was trying to keep it simple, but in the end it looked like a lot. I don't know, I feel like I don't like to choose things because I just want to have it all.

Why did you participate in the project?

For me as the organiser or as the participant?

No. As the participant, of course.

I just want to explore myself. Maybe I can know myself better.

So you wanted to perform the same task that you were asking others because you wanted to explore yourself.

Yeah, I want to explore, I want them to explore themselves.

OK, but what do you want from yourself?

From myself? I would say that sometimes I don't want to admit that I want to be a winner, but now I know I really want to be a winner. So it's like some hidden thoughts. You're not really want to know your ambition in a way like reveal yourself. Are you willing to admit your ambition, desires, or drives?

It depends.

For me, I feel like I always try to hide it. It's not good to talk with people about that, maybe they will be scared. Maybe I'm being too aggressive. It's like when you're having someone you don't like, you don't talk to them: “I don't like you, fuck off.” You don't talk to them like that. It's hiding some thoughts from your side.

And at the beginning I felt like the workshop wasn't that interesting. I don't know, I feel like people getting too over-reacting to me. I don't think it's that interesting. But when I did it, I understood the fun of it. Because you know, when you're picking things, you get the moment you just not thinking at all, just picking it. And then you provide it with a meaning. It's like the meaning comes afterwards. I know you have the meaning in your mind and then you choose that one. But for me, I choose that one and then I give meaning to it, like choosing with my instinct.