So is the sea (Capture 5) an escape of the forest (Capture 1)? Or is it another…?

Yeah, it's another part of this journey, I guess. There's the sea and then there's the beach in the middle. On the one side there's the sea, and on the other one there's the forest. And I guess the beach is a way in between the two. So he's standing in between the sea and the forest. He's forced to go somewhere, you know. Like he can go in the sea and drown in his memories; or go in the forest and get lost and find his way out, so find himself. So try to stay with your memories or try to find yourself.

Oh, so the forest is like reality, the truth, like what happens in the real life.

I think the forest is the necessary evil. And you have to go through it in order to find who you are exactly. And the sea is such a beautiful memory to me. It's a peaceful place where you stay because it's reassuring. But if you want to really understand who you are, then you have to go and…

You have to take the risk.

You have to take the risk. So he's facing the opposite side of the sea because he wants to find out.

I think it's good like these. And just add more shells.

I like that it's having a complex, deep meaning.

But actually for the image, it looks really calm to me, I don't know.

It's really nice.

So this thing is called the found out to me, I want to do a comic book about this. It's literally my own, my own thing. I would like to make an artistic universe, so paintings and stuff like that they'll reconnect to this theme.

Is it a theory or have you come up with it?

I came up with this, but based on many references like literature references and psychology. I put everything together in my head and I came up with this visual representation of my inner journey.

Like understanding themselves.

Yeah, that should be it. That should be it.